Mike Pence was mentioned in Joe Biden's tale of firing Ukraine prosecutor | 8/3/2023

We all saw the video of former Vice President Joe Biden bragging about how he got a Ukrainian prosecutor fired who was investigating an energy company (Burisma) whose son Hunter sat on their Board of Directors at the time. This post includes the links to the full 1-hour video where he talks about Russia and Ukraine when he was Barack Obama's Vice President and Obama's "point man" for Ukraine. But the interesting part is that Donald Trump's former vice president Mike Pence was also a part of this drama. But what was it? And why is it so difficult to find out? Another cover-up by the Biden regime or the Deep State?

Joseph R. Biden, Jr. of the Penn Biden Center for Diplomacy and Global Engagement and the 47th Vice President of the United States (2009 to 2017)

. . . taking credit as co-author of a paper titled "How to Stand Up to the Kremlin: Defending Democracy Against Its Enemies - January/February 2018 | Published on December 5, 2017
https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/russia-fsu/2017-12-05/how-stand-kremlin

. . . with co-author . . .

Michael R. Carpenter - Senior Director, Penn Biden Center for Diplomacy and Global Engagement and the former U.S. Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense (2015 to 2017)

. . .who were both together at . . .

The Foreign Affairs Issue Launch (with Joe Biden and Michael Carpenter) on Tuesday, January 23, 2018
https://www.cfr.org/event/foreign-affairs-issue-launch-former-vice-president-joe-biden  <-- video and transcript

BELOW: This is from the part where Biden mentions the firing of the Ukrainian prosecutor, and was when I first learned of Mike Pence's relation to this story. (As a personal note: I had a difficult time understanding what Joe Biden was trying to articulate, but hopefully you can make more sense of it than I can of his narration.)

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BIDEN: And so I got Ukraine. And I remember going over, convincing our team, our leaders, that we should be providing for loan guarantees. And I went over, I guess, the 12th, 13th time to Kiev. And I was supposed to announce that there was another billion-dollar loan guarantee. And I had gotten a commitment from [Petro] Poroshenko and from [Arseniy] Yatsenyuk that they would take action against the state prosecutor. And they didn’t. So they said they had—they were walking out to a press conference. I said, nah, I’m not going to—or, we’re not going to give you the billion dollars. They said, you have no authority. You’re not the president. The president said—I said, call him. (Laughter.) I said, I’m telling you, you’re not getting the billion dollars. I said, you’re not getting the billion. I’m going to be leaving here in, I think it was about six hours. I looked at them and said: I’m leaving in six hours. If the prosecutor is not fired, you’re not getting the money. Well, son of a bitch. (Laughter.) He got fired. And they put in place someone who was solid at the time...so they made some genuine substantial changes institutionally and with people. But one of the three institutions, there’s now some backsliding.

HAASS: The courts.

BIDEN: Yes. And they had made that commitment that they wouldn’t do that. And so, when we left, the first thing I spent a lot of time—as did Mike because this was his territory as well, and people like Charlie Kupchan [Charles Kupchan, senior fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations] and Victoria [Assistant Secretary of State for European and Eurasian Affairs: Victoria Nuland] and anyway there were a lot of good people we had working on this— we spent a lot of time with Vice President Pence because I was worried that they would make a mistake as a—it would be a sin of omission rather than commission, failing to do certain things or say certain things. And that was at a time when there was an alleged or there was a grave concern among the foreign policy elite that maybe a deal was made to lift sanctions. Whether that was true or not, but that was the atmosphere right after the election. And so what happened was they did some good things. And they’ve now—what’s his name, the guy they have over there...

HAASS: Kurt Volker. [Remember him from Trump's impeachment trial?]

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Evidently President Donald J. Trump's Vice President Mike Pence took over former V.P. Joe Biden's role as "point man" on Ukraine. We heard about President Trump's phone call with Ukraine's newly elected President Zelenskyy, and the transcript from their phone call, and the Democrat's scam impeachment afterwards. But Mike Pence also had some phones calls with Zelenskyy, and the Democrats sent him a letter asking for THOSE transcripts. Pence agreed to release them after speaking with the White House counsel, but when "yours truly" went to the website, the transcript/s were not there...and the letter sent by the Democrats on another website was also scrubbed. That's when I became suspicious and posted this article. (The links below are for reference.)

September 18, 2019 - The Vice President [Mike Pence] spoke by phone today with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy to follow up on their productive September 1 meeting in Warsaw and discussed President Trump’s upcoming meeting with President Zelenskyy next week at the UN General Assembly in New York. The Vice President reiterated the United States’ unwavering commitment to Ukraine’s sovereignty and territorial integrity. The Vice President commended President Zelenskyy’s administration for its bold action to tackle corruption through legislative reforms, and offered full U.S. support for those efforts.
https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/politics/2019/10/09/mike-pence-iowa-ukranian-president-zelensky-trump-impeachment-inquiry-congress-call-transcripts/3925382002/

MISSING TRANSCIPT: https://ua.usembassy.gov/readout-of-vice-president-mike-pences-phone-call-with-the-president-of-ukraine/ (TRANSCRIPT SCRUBBED)

September 27, 2019 - Mike Pence privately counseled President Trump against releasing the rough transcript of the president’s call [Trump] with his Ukrainian counterpart, but eventually sided with others in the White House.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/pence-advised-against-releasing-rough-transcript-of-ukraine-call-11569576603

TRANSCRIPT OF TRUMP-ZELENSKYY PHONE CALL: https://s.wsj.net/public/resources/documents/Unclassifiedukrainetranscript09.2019.pdf

October 9, 2019 - Speaking with reporters after an event in Waukee, Iowa, with Sen. Joni Ernst (R-Iowa), Pence said he didn’t mind making public his communications with Zelensky, even as President Donald Trump faces an impeachment inquiry over comments he made in a phone call with the Ukrainian leader. Trump asked Zelensky in July to investigate former Vice President Joe Biden and his family — a request confirmed by a White House summary of their call. “I’d have no objection to that,” Pence said of releasing transcripts of his own phone calls. “And we’re discussing that with White House counsel as we speak.”
https://www.politico.com/news/2019/10/09/pence-ukraine-zelensky-biden-043684 (LETTER SCRUBBED)

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F.Y.I. - The Ukrainian Players

Arseniy Yatsenyuk
P.M. of Ukraine (2014-2016)

Viktor Yanukovych
President of Ukraine (2014–2019)

Succeeded by
Volodymyr Zelenskyy (2019 to present)
President of Ukraine